Review: Mandriva Linux 2009 Beta 1 (KDE4.1) - 31/07/2008 by Andrew
Distro Review

Gaming on the Cutting Edge – Part 2

This is the second review in the series, following on from Ubuntu 8.10 Alpha 2. The point of these reviews were lost on a few readers in part 1. Why review a Linux distribution that is in Alpha, Beta or Release Candidate? The answer is simple; Newer distros mean newer kernels, which give better support for new hardware and newer distros have newer packages - importantly, game packages. The last point is quite important. Downloading Ubuntu 8.04.1 right now will give you a very stable OS, though a number of the games in the 8.04 repo's have been superseded. In fact, if you're wanting to play online, you might find that this is impossible as the server version might be newer than the version you're running. The answer is either add extra repos from dodgy sources, compile from source or upgrade to a 'not safe for production' distro that's still going through the testing phase of it's release cycle. By taking the last option you'll be helping them out by inadvertently testing, so you're doing the world a favour...while you headshot people in OpenArena.

But which distro, and is it safe yet to jump on board something that hasn't been stamped as being production ready? What new games are available and what versions? How easy is it to setup a gaming machine with distro X? Hopefully these reviews will shed some light.

Mandriva Linux 2009 Beta 1

Hot off the press, I downloaded the KD4 combo live/install CD for x86-32. I would have much preferred to check out the 64bit version, but alas, this wasn't available in a Live CD format.

This is the first of two planned betas before the two release candidates (how you can have two release candidates is beyond me – having three betas and one release candidate makes more sense) with the final public release date being the 9th of October 2008. This is some time away so rather than wait to see if this will be any good as a gaming distro, I'm jumping in now to try it out.

My test machine is made up of the following collection of jumbled spare parts:

AMD Athlon 3200+ (2.0Ghz)
Gigabyte 939 Motherboard (GA-K8NSC-939)
2x512MB Geil DDR400 Dual Channel
Gigabyte 6600GT 256MB AGP 8x
LG DVD Burner (GSA-4163B)
Seagate 40GB 2MB cache ATA100
Onboard AC97
Logitech G15 keyboard + G5 mouse


Live CD and Installation

Booting up I was presented with the single option of booting Mandriva Linux 2009. After carefully choosing, the system started to do the usual loading until I had to choose a language, location, accept something or other, keyboard and time. After a bit more loading I was presented with a very blank looking KDE 4.1. Quite plain and lacking some polish like mouse over text on the left hand buttons, as well as looking...well like KDE4 – not quite finished.

I was expecting to see a big 'Install' icon on the desktop but the icon is instead under the 'tools' section in the menu. Clicking this brought up the very simple installation, which is a matter of clicking guided partitioning and then waiting while 'stuff and things' happen in the background. During this process you are presented with something that looks very much like 'Advertising' explaining the wonderful 2008 Mandriva range. Slightly scary, but at least there was no 'buy now' button trying to get your attention.

After this, it was setting up the bootloader (grub) and then restarting.

Desktop, Graphics and Games

Now that we've got Mandriva 2009 installed it was time to put it through it's paces. Two options present themselves now, with 'Safe Mode' being added to the mix. Mid boot it requests 'Please wait, adding media...'. Unsure what this is though me thinks it's some non GPL goodness to make our lives easier. Whatever it's doing, it takes a bit of time with no screen movement. I wonder how many people will force a reboot during this time...

After setting up a user and avoiding doing the questionnaire, you're right to login and start using the system. As the system is quite bare, it's time to add some packages to see what's available. Firstly, I'd like to say that there's an impressive list of games available, though this is let down by the poor arrangement. For example, OpenArena is filed under 'Arcade', though Nexuiz is under 'Other'. Even so, you can easily search for packages.

Game wise, Planeshift 4.0.0, OpenArena 0.7.7, Nexuiz 2.4.2, FreedriodRPG 0.10.3, Glest 3.1.2 and Wesnoth 1.4.3 make an appearance, along with a huge number of other titles including Second Life. SuperTuxKart was let down, with 0.4 being on offer and not 0.5. Warsow and AlienArena are absent, which seems quite strange as they're both (especially Warsow) well known games and have been around for quite some time.

One strange (but good) thing was the automatic installation of the Nvidia drivers, with version 177.13 being installed without so much as a pop up. Top marks for Mandriva on this.

Bottom Line

Hopefully Mandriva has a 44 gallon drum of polish ready to pour on the KDE version of Mandriva 2009 before it's released for public consumption and since there are still a few releases yet before the final version, they've got a good chance of doing just that. As for a cutting edge distro ready for gaming, it does have a huge selection of games on tap, most of which are the latest versions though it just lacks the overall polish of Ubuntu. When the dust settles, I'd still pick Ubuntu 8.10 over Mandriva 2009 – it's a close call though.











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somelinuxguy
28/06/2009 1:17:57 AM

im using mandriva one spring 2009 i used one 2009 it rocked used spring 2009 it rocks and i got 2xmyscreen on sound and video 8.9inch aao screen just installing flightgear

Gandalf
20/08/2008 12:02:10 AM

You should have compared Ubuntu 8.10 with Mandriva 2009 beta1 GNOME. I am using it right now and I don't want to go back to Ubuntu. Absolutely loving the Mandriva Control Center.

zmiles
2/08/2008 7:23:16 AM

next I hope you will review Opensuse Alpha with 4.01. I use OpenSuse 11.0 with kde 4.0. Stable but not as good(functional) as KDE 3.XX

FACORAT Fabrice http://www.linux-wizard.net
2/08/2008 2:34:59 AM

This is beta1, so this is just the beginning of the KDE4 integration under Mandriva. The strenght of Mandriva is the Mandirva Control Center and all the Mandriva Tools. Give them a try. That's why nvidia drivers where installed automatcially. And they can do this also for ATI, ndiswrapper, virtualbox drivers/addons, printers, scanners. There're really many possibilities with theses tools : no need for CLI most of the time. http://club.mandriva.com/xwiki/documentation/2008-spring/Mastering-Manual-EN.html/Mastering-Manual.html/advanced.html

Andrew www.headshotgamer.com
1/08/2008 8:02:23 AM

One more thing about 'gaming on the cutting edge'. The 'cutting edge' I'm referring to is using an Alpha/Beta just so you can play the latest linux games from the latest (not ready for production) repos - not the fact that I'm running with the very latest hardware.

Andrew www.headshotgamer.com
1/08/2008 7:48:45 AM

Valid points davemc. You can always compile your own kernel - though I believe most users prefer to use the kernels from the repos. Compiling your own kernel isn't a one off - unless you want to ignore the security updates of future kernel point releases. As for my test rig - if a sponsor comes on board or if this site starts to break even, I'll be able to splurge on the hardware. At the moment, this is the only machine that I can dedicate full time to testing. As for testing games with wine - I'm a 'native' only gamer, so no wine reviews. I will be reviewing UT2004, ET/QW, Quake 1, 2, 3, 4, Doom 3 and NWN - when time permits.

davemc
31/07/2008 11:50:28 PM

(Frederik, incubusss) - Agree, but the point this reviewer is trying to make is that somehow, alpha releases are better for "bleeding edge" gaming due to better hardware support (even though he uses an ancient hardware rig to test them and thus proves nothing except that it can/cant support ancient hardware), and that new releases ~should~ have newer package versions of "bleeding edge" games available... Yea, funny logic there, I know. Just the thought of the words "bleeding edge" associated with Linux Games is a real stretch all by itself. How about, "bleeding edge" for Linux games?.. On to the first point though. While it is true that newer kernels offer better hardware support, one need not install alpha Distro's to use them. You can simply compile the newest of the new kernels into your existing, stable distro, like Ubuntu Hardy. Its not hard to do at all, and you usually end up with a far better system when your done. Since your goals seem to be 1) test new software for 2) New hardware compatibility, I think your going about doing that entirely the wrong way. I recommend doing A) Run tests using the newest and best Hardware (quad core, 16+G ram, Newest NVIDIA/ATI cards, best sound cards, best speakers, best monitor(s), bluetooth keyboard/mouse, best joysticks/controllers, etc.). Really push the envelope for hardware and don't be afraid to literally plug in everything plus the kitchen sink! Only then can you truly test hardware compatibility in a "bleeding edge" environment. Next, B) you need to run tests on that bleeding edge hardware using real bleeding edge, most hardcore games. Things like Chrysus, COD4, Assassins Creed, Rainbow 6, Age of Conan, Lord of the Rings Online, Everquest 2; all with effects cranked up as good as they go, and run them all in multiple scenario's for extended time periods and environments. For example, when running real tests I usually use a rig that has no less than: AMD quad core 8G RAM NVIDIA 8800GT (Overclocked) 512M VRAM RAID0 Drive config BOTH Wired and Wireless networking for LAN play Various hardware options for controllers, keyboards, etc. I usually test using systems like Hardy Heron (64 bit, of course, because using anything less is a total waste of time on that system), and run multiple instances of the above mentioned games on it at the same time (2-3 instances of AOC, or EQ2, etc). Run them for at least a full day on that machine under load. Then try out various networking options for LAN play on some of those games. This all must happen obviously, under wine. I like Playonlinux as it puts each game in a wineprefix and provides many configuration tools to make things easy. Unfortunately, there are no Linux games available (or in development) which could use anything more than a small fraction of the resources available under "bleeding edge" modern hardware, so your reasons for testing are very suspect.

Andrew www.headshotgamer.com
31/07/2008 10:44:05 PM

At this stage, from what I've seen, I think I will be choosing Ubuntu over Mandriva when it comes to the ideal distro for gaming - that's what I meant to get across. Anyway, I'm still yet to review Fedora and OpenSuse :D

Frederik
31/07/2008 9:03:27 PM

"When the dust settles, I'd still pick Ubuntu 8.10 over Mandriva 2009" How can you know already now? Neither of these distributions is already released, so it's much too early to conclude which one will be best...

incubusss
31/07/2008 7:49:03 PM

It's quite unfair to compare the polish of Mandriva with the recently implemented KDE4 desktop and Ubuntu with Gnome.


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